Politics, Programming and Possibilities
8 Feb
In a response to the claims made by Screw Loose Change (a “debunking” of Loose Change), “Mike, 30, from NJ” wrote an open letter a day or two ago. Mike is a 9/11 first responder whose life has pretty much been trashed because for two years he wouldn’t shut up about what he saw, heard and felt in the WTC towers. A few highlights:
There were explosions. There were flashes. There was molten metal running down the I-beams of the basement levels like lava flows. I’ve never seen anything like it. Yes, planes hit the buildings- anybody who says otherwise is a moron. But the explosions- the rapid, symmetrical, sequential explosions- they happened.
We were in the basement, helping a man who had been struck by pieces of flying concrete and rebar, and there was one of the huge steel and concrete support pillars with an 8 foot section blown out of the center of it. We looked around and there were other support columns that were the same. We spoke about it right then and there… we were discussing as we were carrying this man, saying “how could someone have rigged all these explosives?”.
Just before the collapses, a series of deep, below ground explosions, then numerous explosions in the buildings upper floors. Then we ran. We felt the same deep explosions before the second collapse. This was not just the planes. THE BUILDINGS WERE RIGGED.
There was a 20 second countdown over the radios, there were bright flashes up and down the sides of building 7, you could see them through the windows…and it collapsed. We all knew it was intentionally pulled… they told us! There was no question about it until a day or so later when the news was reporting that it had collapsed due to fire. We kept wondering when they were going to correct the news reports. Eventually, it became “official story”.
While I recognize that this is nearly an anonymous source (”Mike”), I think it is worth publishing. His story can be corroborated with many other sources. His letter appears genuine. He has reason to want to remain anonymous given the treatment he’s had for having stuck to his story. I think he’s for real, and if I’m right in that judgment call, I support him and wish him well.
9 Responses for "A 9/11 EMT Responder Responds to "Screw Loose Change""
While I agree there are some oddities, or supposed oddities … i think it’s really important to also remain open to the fact that with such a huge event comes a fair amount of rhetoric and willingness to believe in conspiracies.
I guess most people just want real and proper investigations, but we might have to accept that the moment has passed.
There are ominous things on the horizon in the Middle East, and China, and regarding US elections (namely, Hillary, lol). Maybe we should consider the future a little more.
“and there was one of the huge steel and concrete support pillars with an 8 foot section blown out of the center of it”
So a missing 8 foot section proves that there was a bomb? Not that it couldn’t mean that, but how is a missing piece conclusive evidence in and of itself?
“we were discussing as we were carrying this man, saying ‘how could someone have rigged all these explosives?’”
Did he see any rigging? Wires, electronics, timing devices, explosive material, evidence that the pillars had been tampered with in some way? Did he see anything _other than missing sections_ of support pillars to prove that there were explosives?
“Just before the collapses, a series of deep, below ground explosions, then numerous explosions in the buildings upper floors…This was not just the planes. THE BUILDINGS WERE RIGGED.”
If someone can find any kind of evidence that this man offers up that leads him to this leap of reasoning then please, do tell. Explosion != bomb.
“there were bright flashes up and down the sides of building 7, you could see them through the windows…and it collapsed”
Flashes != bomb.
“We all knew it was intentionally pulled… they told us!”
Who are “they”? And how did “they” know? This is the fishiest part of the whole story. I’m sorry he had to be there to experience the horror of 9/11. I have no doubt he is being honest about what he saw and heard. Just because he was there, however, does not mean the conclusions he came to, based on what he saw and heard, were correct.
“I think he’s for real, and if I’m right in that judgment call, I support him and wish him well.”
I wish him well too. His bravery on 9/11 proves that he was a good, courageous man. Like I said, however, just because he was there does not mean his conclusions are scientific or correct. If I hear someone’s tire blowout, can I so easily prove that it was a gunshot without ever seeing/finding the presence of a gun, the bullet casing that was ejected from the chamber, and ballistic analysis showing the impact of a bullet? In any case, the conclusions of this story–not the story itself–”would not hold up in court” so to say.
As always, I share my thoughts as a friend, to a friend.
Except that there were no “concrete support pillars” anywhere in the World Trade Center. How do I know? I lived in the neighborhood for thirty years. My little sister dated one of the building engineers back in 1971. I worked in the South Tower for years, myself. All construction was steel frame, all cladding was drywall. It was a unique construction for the time it was built. There was some concrete poured onto the floorings corrugated sheet metal, that was it.
After all these years only Islamic fundamentalists and old school “radicals” still buy into all the MIHOP baloney. Oh, and some youngsters who live and die in front of the boob tube.
If anything, this motley crew of dolts have helped the Bushistas more than anything by being so goofy in their militant naivete.
This is in reply to Brad’s comment.
“So a missing 8 foot section proves that there was a bomb? Not that it couldn’t mean that, but how is a missing piece conclusive evidence in and of itself?”
I find it highly improbable that a plane, flying somewhat near the middle-top of a large sky scraper could possibly subject a wall in or near the basement to suddenly have an 8 foot section missing. What I’m suggesting is that it clearly was not a PLANE that caused this hole in the wall. Perhaps this person saw something that was not truly there? Delusional? Other than that, the only other conclusion I can come up with is that indeed, a bomb created the hole. I’d be open to any other suggestions as to what the hole could have been caused by (of course, still assuming this guy is legit, and that he actually saw what he says he saw.) But I see no reason to NOT jump to the conclusion that it was a bomb.
Oh, and one more thing. If there were bombs, you wouldn’t see any wiring, because if you think about it, would it be in plain sight? Would the people who rigged it, set it up so that passers by would notice odd wires etc leading into the hall? I would suppose not.
I mean this in the same way you do. Friend to friend.
You’re still not weighing in the difficulty of keeping this whole thing a big secret. You know the high-level government agent involved in this has a multi-million dollar secret to keep? So, a $10 million book deal, a free concience, and judicial immunity? If I were evil George Bush I’d have planted the bombs myself.
Obviously this here email is a fake. That guy’s got a v in his myspace account. Everybody done knows that all the screwballs gots a v liek in v for vandetta. Yall belive in all this crazy bs and don’t know what yall is talking abouts.
(see the website)
what gets me is how our gov. & the media expects us to believe thier therory of how the towers fell. loose change was right on the money and after watching and seeing the footage its very hard to believe our goverments real agenda
Keep sniffing around for the real story.Bilderberg clan probably in on this.Rather and Jennings commented on a controlled explosion scenerio the day the structures came down. Rather is gone and Jennings is dead.Remember Vince Foster ???
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