Politics, Programming and Possibilities
22 Feb
I wrote last month about my approval of and involvement in the effort to impeach Bush and Cheney. There was some discussion in the comments about the legality of impeachment—in other words, what law or laws, specifically, had been broken in order to merit the ousting of our president.
While I still believe that the issue does not necessarily hinge on what law has been broken (a “misdemeanor” is all it takes), it was worth reading this detailed list of offenses and their corresponding laws that the president and vice president have broken.
The constitution clearly gives congress the power to impeach at their discretion: “Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
If we, as a people, can permit so many “crimes and misdemeanors” at the top of our society to go unpunished, how can we honor and maintain the rule of law here “below”?
Update: Truthout has an article that summarizes past impeachable offenses, including Andrew Jackson:
unmindful of the harmony and courtesies which ought to exist and be maintained between the executive and legislative branches
5 Responses for "On High Crimes and Misdemeanors"
Impeachable Offences:
http://impeachforpeace.org/evidence/
Teddy Roosevelt once said:
Our President has destroyed the Republic. However, he has largely done so under the radar, as the majority of citizens have no idea what the Military Commissions Act, John Warner Defense Act, USA PATRIOT Act, and Security and Prosperity Partnership are.
Even most of Congress are asleep at the wheel on these important issues. And so, impeachment won’t happen, as much as I would like it to.
You guys apparently don’t realize that half the country agrees with the presidents controversial decisions, and that this “impeach the president” idea is offensive, and would serve no other purpose than to drag politics further down.
Connor, all those acts were voted on in a constitutional manner. I could make the argument that Bill Clinton went further to extremes in his use of presidential authority. Duane, I know you think the president is part of a secret organization that blew up the world trade center with explosives. You’re rooting every day for the economy to tank. WTF? This is madness.
You guys apparently don’t realize that half the country agrees with the presidents controversial decisions…
You’re kidding me, right? You really expect me to believe that half the nation is even aware of the laws/programs I cited previously? Puh-leeze! I’d say that 5% would be a conservative guess, but 50?! No dice.
…this “impeach the president” idea is offensive…
Nephi had something to say about that.
…[it] would serve no other purpose than to drag politics further down.
This argument is so overused and unsupported that it doesn’t even merit a rebuttal.
…all those acts were voted on in a constitutional manner.
Are you aware of how much time Congressmen were given to review the USA PATRIOT Act before it was to be voted upon? And are you so uninformed on the Security and Prosperity Partnership that you actually believe it was run through Congress? Constitutionality and President Bush do not belong in the same sentence, unless the former is preceded with “un-”.
“Oh it’s not the congressmen’s fault, they were DUPED! Even the Republican ones!”
Puh-leeze!
I purposely used the words “voted on in a constitutional manner” without mentioning congress. But in the back of my mind, I knew you still wouldn’t get it. You are hard to communicate with, Connor. Your attempt to skew my words and label me “uninformed” has failed. Go directly to jail, do not pass go.
You guys could argue with me all day about the constitutionality of GW’s initiatives, but what your hatred really boils down to is the WAR. When Israel is vaporized by Iranian nuclear bombs, you’ll throw your hands up, “not like we could do anything about it, cause you know, war is bad.”
And here, I’ll refute your “Nephi” argument.
http://www.irr.org/MIT/Lamanites-DNA-Book-of-Mormon.html
Does that change your world view any?
Didn’t think so.
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