Comments on: Announcing Yootools http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/ Politics, Programming and Possibilities Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:19:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Duane Johnson http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8709 Duane Johnson Wed, 16 May 2007 03:08:12 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8709 Update: I changed the little slogan to "friendly" instead of "friendlier", since it wasn't really my intention to try to put something else down. Seems like a gesture of good will was certainly due :) Update: I changed the little slogan to “friendly” instead of “friendlier”, since it wasn’t really my intention to try to put something else down. Seems like a gesture of good will was certainly due :)

]]> By: Duane Johnson http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8704 Duane Johnson Wed, 16 May 2007 02:24:25 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8704 Yes, this is definitely a code fork. We're not against anyone in the mootools community, we just didn't feel well received. Technically we were very impressed with what we saw, but unfortunately technical merits are not the only part of a library--it has to have a democratic process for change, and preferrably the kind of developers who go out of their way to help when you're trying to understand, improve upon, or fix the code. We've made some significant changes to the core that we started with, and we'll be continuing to make changes as we go. It's past the point of no return for us, so yootools will be around for a while. Feel free to use, learn, and contribute if you are so inclined! Best regards, Duane Yes, this is definitely a code fork.

We’re not against anyone in the mootools community, we just didn’t feel well received. Technically we were very impressed with what we saw, but unfortunately technical merits are not the only part of a library–it has to have a democratic process for change, and preferrably the kind of developers who go out of their way to help when you’re trying to understand, improve upon, or fix the code.

We’ve made some significant changes to the core that we started with, and we’ll be continuing to make changes as we go. It’s past the point of no return for us, so yootools will be around for a while. Feel free to use, learn, and contribute if you are so inclined!

Best regards,
Duane

]]> By: Alex G http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8690 Alex G Tue, 15 May 2007 20:34:01 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8690 Holy mother... don't everybody jump in to tear the guy apart... I might see his point now about "unfriendly" community. But honestly, I don't think there's anything stopping you from forking mootools to roll the changes in that mootools wouldn't accept. This way you can still contribute without having to rewrite same code and people learning another library. Holy mother… don’t everybody jump in to tear the guy apart… I might see his point now about “unfriendly” community.

But honestly, I don’t think there’s anything stopping you from forking mootools to roll the changes in that mootools wouldn’t accept. This way you can still contribute without having to rewrite same code and people learning another library.

]]> By: newbee http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8619 newbee Mon, 14 May 2007 17:03:49 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8619 thx man this is great!! mootools peple rnt friently the mootols peple are mean and expect me to know javascript and try to write my own codez be4 they help me n make my sitez for me ur site will be nicer thx man this is great!! mootools peple rnt friently the mootols peple are mean and expect me to know javascript and try to write my own codez be4 they help me n make my sitez for me ur site will be nicer

]]> By: digitarald http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8618 digitarald Mon, 14 May 2007 16:24:41 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8618 Just found your ticket ... if u think u have to start this project because your ticket was not accepted and so you needed to make changes in the mootools code ... You can easily add the drag event to the current logic with extending the Drag.Move. I extend mootools every day in my projects, that's how it works and not creating a new independent library. I'm sure you understand that the devs and the contributors have to keep the mootools code basic. Mootools provides the coffee, u add sugar and milk ... my favorite quote ;) . We talk about things we add and optimize them, and we also decide against some things. Adding for example your drag event would slow down dragging a lot and not many will use this event. I'm done here now, please come to one's senses. Just found your ticket … if u think u have to start this project because your ticket was not accepted and so you needed to make changes in the mootools code … You can easily add the drag event to the current logic with extending the Drag.Move. I extend mootools every day in my projects, that’s how it works and not creating a new independent library.

I’m sure you understand that the devs and the contributors have to keep the mootools code basic. Mootools provides the coffee, u add sugar and milk … my favorite quote ;) . We talk about things we add and optimize them, and we also decide against some things. Adding for example your drag event would slow down dragging a lot and not many will use this event.

I’m done here now, please come to one’s senses.

]]> By: digitarald http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8614 digitarald Mon, 14 May 2007 16:13:28 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8614 Are you sure that mootools has such an unfriendly community that would result in such a project? I'm sure there are better ways to contribute to mootools or the javascript framework community, but not copying a whole framework just to add your changes. I would be happy to announce and discuss your plugins and changes in the mootools forum ... if they are for mootools and not in a ripped of mootools-like framework, that makes me kind-of sad. I hope you are not serious with this project. Greetings, A developer Are you sure that mootools has such an unfriendly community that would result in such a project? I’m sure there are better ways to contribute to mootools or the javascript framework community, but not copying a whole framework just to add your changes. I would be happy to announce and discuss your plugins and changes in the mootools forum … if they are for mootools and not in a ripped of mootools-like framework, that makes me kind-of sad.

I hope you are not serious with this project.

Greetings, A developer

]]> By: tomocchino http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8592 tomocchino Mon, 14 May 2007 06:59:23 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8592 i agree with youreanidiot... this is pretty lame man. i agree with youreanidiot… this is pretty lame man.

]]> By: youreanidiot http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8591 youreanidiot Mon, 14 May 2007 06:57:26 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8591 Honestly though... why didn't you just make a plugin providing your own custom drag and drop class for mootools. You're using an old version of the mootools core with a crappy drag and drop plugin, just so you could add a custom event to the drag functionality? dumb things make me sad somtimes... :/ Honestly though… why didn’t you just make a plugin providing your own custom drag and drop class for mootools. You’re using an old version of the mootools core with a crappy drag and drop plugin, just so you could add a custom event to the drag functionality?

dumb things make me sad somtimes… :/

]]> By: Inviz http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8590 Inviz Mon, 14 May 2007 06:52:44 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8590 guys can i have a dollar? guys can i have a dollar?

]]> By: ibolmo http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8589 ibolmo Mon, 14 May 2007 06:51:24 +0000 http://blog.inquirylabs.com/2007/05/12/announcing-yootools/#comment-8589 Wow.. so you're like the Bill Gates of JavaScript? Sad... Wow.. so you’re like the Bill Gates of JavaScript?

Sad…

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